LastDodo site & app/New: free Catawiki Comic Envelopes434 messages

There has been some delay in preparing the Bommel strip envelope for shipment. It will be shipped this week.

am extremely curious. By the way, it seems to me every time a pagan job to find out everything, to collect addresses, to paste stamps etc etc and all as a free gesture for the buyers !!

By the way, I secretly hope that henk kuijpers is also on your list

tribute for this great initiative, rene

@nicenic, There are still big names on our list for the coming months but I won't tell you anything yet :-)

Can't wait for Herge week!

yes! today at the post the superb stripenvolop 04 from tom poes en bommel. Really a beauty. Keep it up

my thanks

nico

I am served with the new franka envelope at my beck and call !!

Since the comics auctions now also count and I was actually able to buy a lot yesterday, I immediately met the conditions to receive it.

good job rene and associates!

@nicenic, you saw that very quickly :-)

We have indeed changed the rules for the following 3 reasons:

1. More and more smart people ordered in a shop with a value of less than 200 euros from an acquaintance or from themselves (other account). For example, no commission was paid and the envelope was received.

2. People found it unclear that purchases of items that are not in the comic books or stamp sections, but offered by comic or stamp shops do not count. For example comic figurines or coins. That gave more and more hassle.

3. People who made frequent auction or daily offer purchases were disappointed that, despite sometimes very expensive purchases, they did not receive an envelope.

That is why we have decided to give the envelope away to buyers at the auction and daily offer. See here for the new rules.

yes you keep creative accounting

thought it was a great motivation to buy on cw

it is now partially gone

I haven't been following Franka for a while, but since when has she been redheaded?

I haven't been following Franka for a while, but since when has she been redheaded?

Since the significant increase in cup size (:-)

@ René,

I regret that the rules have changed, but yes, whoever is boss bakes bread.

I bought every month for a minimum, but more often more than 50 euros from sellers. I never checked how much they had in the shop. Because of those clever hands, the small buyer is now again the victim.

The comic envelope was certainly an incentive to do that via Catawiki shops. I am not a buyer of comics through auctions, in which large (er) amounts are paid.

When did the rules change? Did this happen in the month of May? If so, I believe that the purchases made in May through the Catawiki strip shops should still count.

I am sorry, I tried to collect all the comic envelopes, but this way I quit.

@ Zoutman,

I can imagine your disappointment but we didn't know how else to fix this. The change will indeed apply from the month of May.

The daily offer therefore also counts. Perhaps something will pass that is interesting to you. And at the comic auctions there are always lots that yield a little less. But of course there has to be something for you.

I agree with Zoutman, I too will no longer order € 50 or more every month from Catawiki shops.

I also agree with Carl and Zoutman that this sudden policy change is a bad thing.

The daily offers are usually not interesting and rarely above 50 euros and at the auction you have to wait and see whether you can get a lot for an acceptable price.

In short, as a collector of envelopes I feel quite disadvantaged ....

Catawiki shows itself to be unreliable in its agreements .... a pity .....

More and more smart people ordered in a shop with a value of less than 200 euros from an acquaintance or from themselves (other account). For example, no commission was paid and the envelope was received.

But this is of course a problem that must be tackled first.

I do agree that the current regulation is not the perfect solution to this problem. With the shops you could use the out-is-on principle of a limited edition without preservation, but now that is getting more difficult.
In principle, the loot is roughly divided with 4x2x120 = 960 auction lots per month. But if there are 1 or 2 more expensive envelope-yielding daily offers, the people who buy something at the last auction of the month are by definition behind the net, while I do not see that someone who buys an auction lot in week 4 would have less rights than someone who buys an auction lot in week 1. That is really not comparable to buying in the shops where everyone can just take their chance at the beginning of the month if they wish to qualify for the comic envelope.

It is indeed a pity that the incentive to buy in the shops is disappearing. Those auction lots and daily offers are selling anyway. :-)

..... or not of course because I see some daily offers returning very persistently.

More and more smart people ordered in a shop with a value of less than 200 euros from an acquaintance or from themselves (other account). For example, no commission was paid and the envelope was received.

And how many smart guys were these ... 10 - 20 - 50?

This is less than 5% on 1000 envelopes. Do you have to change the rules of the game halfway through an action?

How are you going to compensate the shops that are in good faith but are now seeing their sales decline?

Sorry Rene, but this doesn't seem completely thought out and a bit like panic football ..

If shops with a value less than € 200 would also pay commission, the problem would also be solved.

@carl

Dit zou zeker een oplossing zijn.

Vergeet echter niet dat de eigenaren van Catawiki juist de partuculieren tegemoet willen komen door juist geen commissie over de eerste € 200,- te rekenen.

Niet dat 5% commissie veel is maar om de drempel voor verkopen toch zo te stimulieren voor mensen die af en toe wat items aan willen bieden.

Hier heeft iedereen voordeel van aangezien het aanbod hierdoor waarschijnlijk groter is.

Wij kunnen ons zeker voorstellen dat door de nieuwe regel veel verzamelaars teleurgesteld zijn, wij proberen even mee te denken aangezien de stripenvelop echt een cadeautje is waar Catawiki waarschijnlijk niets aan verdient, de kosten van het versturen en maken van de envelop is misschien wel meer dan de commissie van  € 50,-.

Het blijft natuurlijk een geweldig cadeau.

Wij willen daarom even een vraag te stellen aan iedereen die zo geen stripenveloppen meer in zijn bezit kan krijgen, wat zouden jullie ervan vinden als de besteding bv € 100,- per maand zou worden in de shops om deze gratis te krijgen.

Ander idee, bij een besteding van € 50,- per maand in de shops kan men met bijbetaling van een x bedrag toch de stripenvelop krijgen.

Het zijn maar een paar ideeen om het voor iedereen interesant te maken, zowel voor Catawiki als de verzamelaars.

Hoe denken jullie daarover.

@carl

This would certainly be a solution.

Do not forget, however, that the owners of Catawiki want to accommodate private individuals by not charging a commission on the first € 200.

Not that 5% commission is a lot, but to stimulate the sales threshold for people who want to offer some items now and then.

Everyone benefits from this as the supply is likely to be larger.

We can certainly imagine that many collectors are disappointed by the new rule, we try to think along, since the comic envelope is really a gift from which Catawiki probably does not earn anything, the costs of sending and making the envelope may be more than the commission of € 50.00.

Of course it remains a great gift.

We would therefore like to ask a question to everyone who can no longer obtain strip envelopes in this way, what would you think if the expenditure would become, for example, € 100 per month in the shops to get these for free.

Another idea, if you spend € 50 per month in the shops, you can still get the strip envelope with an additional payment of an x amount.

These are just a few ideas to make it interesting for everyone, both for Catawiki and collectors.

How do you think about that.

I also think it's not fair anymore. If you do want to buy something but there is nothing on the daily offer that you want and the auctions are no longer yielding, then you just pee next to the pot. While there is plenty to suit you in the shops. This can never be the intention!

Then try to outsmart the smarts and not let the good guys get the brunt of it ...

How are you going to compensate the shops that are in good faith but are now seeing their sales decline?

Euh, shops did benefit from the increased sales activity (and Catawiki also a little via the commission and the PR) but shops, good or bad faith, of course have no 'right' in this matter and therefore do not need to be compensated for anything. Shops do not see their turnover decline, they have only seen it increase temporarily.

Carl's plan to also charge a commission for shops with a low resale value also seems to me to be the solution.

You will only receive an invoice once you have sold for at least 100 euros, so the smaller shops that occasionally offer something, or have little supply, will hardly notice the commission to be paid.

Carl's plan to also charge a commission for shops with a low resale value also seems to me to be the solution.

So I am against that, because then people will be 'punished'. Namely the people with a small 2nd hand shop, who probably didn't have increased sales anyway. It would not surprise me if 90% of that extra sale concerns the large pro stores that have many newly released items in their range. There is nothing wrong with that of course and they have been awarded it, but you should not turn it around and suddenly put an extra burden on a lot of small shops.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. But apparently there was with that 200 Euro limit. That is already a nice amount, but it makes the effort of a fake account valuable.

Why not make it 20 Euro? You can use the entire Catawiki catalog and website and paying 5% is too much?

And we are talking about small (non-professional) shops. Who cares whether you sell something for 10 Euro or 9.5 Euro?

Euh, shops did benefit from the increased sales activity (and Catawiki also a bit through the commission and the PR) but shops, good or bad faith, of course have no 'right to' anything in this and therefore do not have to compensate for anything to become. Shops do not see their turnover decline, they have seen it increase at most temporarily.

As pegag puts it above, that's how I see it. The comic envelopes cost us quite a bit of money to make. Those costs are many times higher than we receive in extra commission. Then it is very frustrating that abuse is also being made. Especially when it becomes increasingly large-scale. We think it is right that we want to prevent that.

Anyway, I understand that even when you get something for free, it is annoying when the conditions for getting it for free change. If we had given it away on auction purchases / daily offerings from the beginning and were now going to give it away on shop purchases, you'd get the same kind of responses. People don't like change :-)

We may still be able to find a way to offer it for shop purchases, auction as well as daily offers. We are still thinking about it.

To be on the safe side: purchases of comic-related items from the book auction (Thursday) also don't count? Such a Paul original , for example, which would have been at the Comic Auction a week earlier.