Comic books/Book that I cannot find27 messages

Hello everyone,

I have a suske and sure one here with the title the dark diamond. Now I started looking around but I can't find exactly the same comic book. Do I now have a rare copy or do I just look over it really hard? I hope someone can help me. I see that I can not add photos unfortunately so I try to explain this way.

It's about the dark diamond No. 23.

Nothing is written at the bottom of the front cover.

On the back is the first book 1a on the island of amoras, it ends with nr 29 the singing fungi and underneath is parentheses (in preparation)

At the very bottom is the pike family with 5 titles underneath.

This one? : 442415

No unfortunately there is nothing at the bottom between brackets. For the rest it is the same

below it is parentheses (in preparation)

But which albums are listed in brackets?

No albums it just says that at the bottom of all those titles

You can 442415 collection, and add your own images to your collection. And then we can see what you mean. Do leave your collection open.

I put the photos in there.

Zelfde fenomeen als in de Vlaamse tweekleurenreeks.

De eerste druk heeft de zingende zwammen (in voorbereiding), en de tweede druk is een vroege herdruk waar de "(in voorbereiding)" is weggevallen.

Dus ook in de Hollandse reeks is er snel herdrukt en mag je dat album dus toevoegen met een b toevoeging (en dan de eerste druk a maken).

In de Hollandse reeks zie je dat ook gebeuren met de zwarte zwaan, de zingende zwammen, de wolkeneters en de klankentapper.

De eerste druk is doorgaans groter dan de herdruk, dus jouw exemplaar is in ieder geval zeldzamer. Maar omdat de Hollandse reeks minder verzameld wordt, en men liever eerste drukken verzameld dan herdrukken, is het niet een erg gezocht exemplaar.

Het ziet er wel nog een mooi boekje uit, met een prachtig verhaal dat zeker gelezen moet worden!

Same phenomenon as in the Flemish two-colour series.

The first edition has the singing mushrooms (in preparation), and the second edition is an early reprint where the "(in preparation)" has been dropped.

So also in the Dutch series reprints were made quickly and you can therefore add that album with a b addition (and then make the first printing a).

In the Dutch series you also see this happening with the black swan, the singing mushrooms, the cloud eaters and the sound tapper.

The first printing is usually larger than the reprint, so your copy is rarer in any case. But because the Dutch series is less collected, and people prefer to collect first editions than reprints, it is not a very sought-after copy.

It still looks like a nice book, with a beautiful story that should definitely be read!

Okay so this copy is not on Catawiki if I understand you correctly?

You understand well.

But we all don't understand. (Or nobody points out the mistake I'm making.)

The album Jeffrey has is marked "(in preparation)". So this must be an earlier edition than the album listed in the catalog as "first edition of a reprint".

The image in the catalog should therefore be reprinted because the "(in preparation)" has been omitted because the album has already been released, so it is a later edition.

So Jeffrey has the real first edition, the other albums are reprints.

Quite a discovery! (Or it's late and I'm starting to see everything twice ...)

Isn't that what you said before?

That was my message.
How do I manage to log in with a new account again?
Bizarre.

Isn't that what you said before?

No, the first time I assumed the first edition was in the catalog and Jeffrey had the reprint.

Now I say there is a reprint in the catalog and Jeffrey has the one and only first edition.

Since no one has noticed this before, it may be that a large number of collectors have to look for a real first edition because it is still missing from their collection.

Dus als de beheerders een handje helpen met het bevroren album, dan hebben we nu:

- de nieuwe eerste druk (van een herdruk) (dank u Jeffrey!) album a

- de herdruk (die we eerst als eerste druk dachten te kennen) album b

Voila Jeffrey, je album staat nu wel in de catalogus!

So if the admins lend a hand with the frozen album, we now have:

- the new first edition (of a reprint) (thank you Jeffrey!) album a

- the reprint (which we first thought we knew as the first edition) album b

Voila Jeffrey, your album is now in the catalog!

The only question that has not yet been asked to Jeffrey: are the front and the back normally and neatly together or with adhesive tape?

Just be curious, have never collected the two color series so fanatically. When I compare the two color series Flemish and Dutch I see very different numbering / order of the albums on the back covers, and the oldest back cover if I have seen correctly is 27097 flying-bed Dutch. Has the publisher released 20 albums in these series in one go since 1959/1960? Or are there perhaps many more editions to be included in the catalog with, for example, only 10 published issues?

The only question that has not yet been asked to Jeffrey: are the front and the back normally and neatly together or with adhesive tape?

I understand that question, but since the phenomenon continues throughout the rest of the series, I think it will be true.

But idd, Jeffrey should confirm that.

Compare two color series Flemish and Dutch, I see very different numbering / order of the albums on the backcovers

That's right, that's because the uncoloured series ran later in the Netherlands and therefore already had a different numbering that was still being adopted. Afterwards they pulled everything "right" in the uniform two-color series .

Released 20 albums in these series

This numbering also includes the uncolored numbers that were still for sale everywhere at the time.

Jozek K thanks for the explanation. Imagine that it is fun and continues to collect all kinds of series.

wow how cool I have this one. I don't see any tape and ales are in good condition, so I expect it to be all right. where should I pay attention?

Thank you for placing it in the catalog! I cannot attach any value to this now I think or?

Quite a discovery!

Yes, it is nice that after so many years a new 'first edition' is popping up.

The Dark Diamond was the first reprint in the Two-Tone series of a Red series album.
The circulation was probably limited because they did not know how well it was going to sell.

Thank you for placing it in the catalog! I cannot attach any value to this now I think or?

The Flemish equivalent (in preparation) is significantly rarer than the successor. But I cannot predict much about the Dutch version.

In the catalog anyone can still assign an approximate value to the album in question, the fields are still empty. The Catawiki auctions of Suske en Wiske still provide guidance. Later editions from the 1960s as the 1st edition of a reissue, provided that it is in near mint condition, still yields 50 to 70 euros. Real shopping states / mint or are they still there ?? As I see, the imported album is in good condition, whether such an album will be included in the auction as a separate piece, the question is unpredictable if so. Would be a shame that it would yield little. Would this be nice as a valuation in the catalog? :

Mint condition: 60

almost new: 40

Good: 15

reasonable: 5

Is it already there?

Ja dat is verzorgd via Jozefk, eerder gemeld in het Forumonderwerp :

- de nieuwe eerste druk (van een herdruk) (dank u Jeffrey!) album a

- de herdruk (die we eerst als eerste druk dachten te kennen) album b

Yes, that has been arranged via Jozefk, previously reported in the Forum topic:

- the new first edition (of a reprint) (thank you Jeffrey!) album a

- the reprint (which we first thought we knew as the first edition) album b

what should I pay attention to?

Just that the front and back of the album definitely belong together. If the spine is complete and thus connects the covers, it will be fine ..

It would also be nice if you had time to add a nice scan of the covers to the album (and thus replace the current photos). And maybe the third image is a photo of the title page.