LastDodo site & app/Reporting of duplicates27 messages

Can I find information somewhere about the agreements to indicate duplicates in the catalog.

What I now see by chance that someone indicates: duplication with a reference to the "correct / permanent item" however, shops that have the "doublure" for sale will not be notified. At a minimum, the modifier should send a message to the shops or at least maintain the title of the object / book. For sale "doublure" says so little. And if someone indicates a duplicate or on the newest item, not on an already entered item.

The agreement is to change one of the items - and preferably the least complete - the title to duplicate from .......

I also do not think it is possible to change the shops or collectors.

Choosing between the oldest entry and the newest entry doesn't really matter. It often happens that collectors or shops are attached to both items.

If the duplicates are deduplicated, everything will be fine again. But I see your point.

Thank you Jilles. Indeed, I saw that there are thousands of duplicates.

http://www.catawiki.nl/search?q=doublure

, no start for the administrators. I will correct what I can do myself.

Have a nice weekend

Harry J

Are duplicates actually still being removed?

In certain countries with the stamps, certain duplicates have been there for months (years) without anything being removed.

That is a time consuming job. The hardest part is if there is no reference to the original, of which that item should be a duplicate.

I thought Arco wanted to put separate administrators on it in the future.

Maybe you can already apply.

Just wiped clean with sugar sachets and video games. I can't do anything with what's left.

This kind of duplication cannot be seen from the photo gallery 4791207 and title field is also increasingly used as a comment field 3639637 (messy)

https://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/verzamelalbums/series/van-nelle/6977529-het-tovervisje

That's scaring ... Is duplication

https://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/verzamelalbums/series/van-nelle/6977529-het-tovervisje

That's scaring ... Is duplication

Forgetting to add what?

6977529 is an item with images without the cover and therefore not complete. The copy has been in the catalog several times. 7370035 is also an item without a cover.

PS, the shock was because of the images and no review.

Was nog een ingewikkeld verhaal.

6977529 (samengevoegd met 7056549) stond vermeld als eerste druk uit 1936, maar volgens ANPA – Archief Van Nederlandse Plaatjesalbums (ik verzin het niet zelf) komt het eerste album uit 1922. 

7370035 is samengevoegd met 2822959

4712367 is een doublure van 3473779 en geen plaatjes album, staat dus in de verkeerde rubriek.

Bedankt voor het melden!

Was a complicated story.

6977529 (merged with 7056549 ) was listed as the first edition from 1936, but according to ANPA – Archive of Dutch Picture Albums (I'm not making it up) the first album comes from 1922.

7370035 has been merged with 2822959

4712367 is a duplicate of 3473779 and not a picture album, so it is in the wrong section.

Thanks for reporting!

Good job Ted! and thank you for the corrections.

Er is bij Piggelmee sprake van verschillende sub-reeksen. De oudere uitgaven waren op staand formaat en hadden plaatjes van een anonieme tekenaar. Die boeken zijn in verschillende vormen herdrukt.

Toovervischje 4712367 is een nieuwe editie uit 1936, op oblong-formaat met illustraties van Nans van Leeuwen (bij dezelfde tekst, in oude spelling). Maar dit zijn geen inplakplaatjes, het is een gewoon boek. 

Tovervisje 7056549 is uit 1949 en heeft (ruitvormige) verzamelplaatjes met nieuwe tekeningen van Nans van Leeuwen (en een moderne spelling).

Hier moet echt een specialist naar kijken, liefst iemand die alle versies heeft, want er staan meer fouten tussen.

Leopold en Leopold, H. mogen alvast worden samengevoegd met Steenhuizen, L.C., die onder het pseudoniem Leopold schreef.

There are several sub-series at Piggelmee. The older editions were in portrait format and had pictures by an anonymous artist. Those books have been reprinted in various forms.

Toovervischje 4712367 is a new edition from 1936, in oblong format with illustrations by Nans van Leeuwen (with the same text, in old spelling). But these aren't decals, it's an ordinary book.

Tovervisje 7056549 is from 1949 and has (diamond-shaped) collectible pictures with new drawings by Nans van Leeuwen (and a modern spelling).

A specialist really needs to look at this, preferably someone who has all versions, because there are more errors in between.

Leopold and Leopold, H. may already be merged with Steenhuizen, LC , who wrote under the pseudonym Leopold.

Steenhuizen and Leopold have been merged

Several users and administrators face the problem of duplication. Especially if this is indicated in the title from another language version, it usually does not go well. Many different terms are used and not always correctly translated to DOUBLURE from xxxxxx.
Sometimes a duplication is indicated at Particulars.

That is why I requested to develop "something", so that in all languages a standard text the title can be replaced , to indicate a duplication:

DOUBLURE of xxxxxxxx [NL-field]
DUPLICATION or xxxxxxxx [AND field]
DUPLICATION the xxxxxxxx [FR field]
DUPLIZIERUNG von xxxxxxxx [DE field]
(xxxxxx = catalog number of the original item)

Until the "tool / button / option" has been developed, please indicate duplications in the above manner. Please do not forget to also adjust the (possible) foreign language fields, more and more foreign language users are coming to LastDodo.

Do they necessarily have to be those crooked translations?

Better suggestions are always welcome

Dutch: doublure of
English: duplicate or
French: double de (or: duplicate de)
German: Duplikat von

Most can be found with the search terms "doubl" and "dupli".

I think the titles that Tammo mentions are still a legacy of the old translation machine. If you now enter "doublure" at eg Stamps you automatically get: doublure-duplication-reproduction-Vervielfältigung . Especially the latter is - in this context - incomprehensible to Germans.

P.S. doublon is fine too.

P.P.S. Wouldn't a "Report this item" button be a clue? Then other input errors (wrong section, illegal or multi-items) can also be automatically added to an administrator list.

Is it an airplane, is it a bird ... no it isn't.

The benefit is that they can be easily found by an administrator for processing / deletion. A keyword that has little chance of appearing in the name of a non-duplicate item.
Then why worry about the translation ... matter of appointment right? Just keep it as short as possible: 'DOUBLURE xxxxxxxx', and have the 'translator' put it in all languages as 'DOUBLURE xxxxxxxx'.

'Ballast' would be a nicer word, but then I fear problems with the model trains.

If an article ever appears on LD with the name 'duplication', it is still a human who processes these duplicates, I assume?

@ Tammo @stripspeldjes

I did some research on the internet. Linguistically, the comic strip proposal is perfect and correct in the respective languages.

Or 'GEMINUS xxxxxx' everywhere, then it is in a foreign language for everyone (yet universal).

There is not a single item on LD with this Latin term for double. So easy to look up. And as code special enough to attract enough attention not to forget it. The translation machine (robot) can be taught that everything that starts with doub consists of less than 3 words (parts) and ends with a very large number (LD id) being neatly translated (adjusted) in the 4 boxes to 'GEMINUS xxxxxx' .

To detect a double, you must already exceed a certain skills threshold, at a level that is more than enough to learn one word (trick). I do not see at least half of the LD users doing that, because sometimes you realize afterwards with red cheeks that it might actually be a slightly different specific item (no double).
Sometimes the level is also exceeded in the wrong direction. I've already seen 'DOUBLURE of xxxxxx, yyyyyy, zzzzzzz and fffffff'. And then of course there are many duplicates (mega-fun).

All kidding ... Just take 'DOUBLURE xxxxx' in all 4 boxes to keep the level low enough. What's in the name.
On the Internet, on certain sites, you sometimes have to type in certain boxes much more complicated codes than a word and a number.

And whatever how the translation is written or spelled in the other three boxes, it will always stand out enough (and that's what it's all about anyway)? Recognizable to the users, and traceable to the administrators.
The fact that a double item remains on LD a little longer due to a wrong spelling (Double xxxxxx) is less bad than an item with incorrect (incorrect) data.

For the search engine it is enough if the NL title says DOUBLURE. Then administrators find this item and merge it with the original. The main point is that new visitors / users in each of the 4 languages immediately see that it is a duplication of another item. That is the reason that for sections with multilingual title fields, this must be adjusted at the same time.

Everyone agrees:

NL = DOUBLURE of
AND = DUPLICATE or
FR = DOUBLON de
DE = DUPLIKAT von