Coins/The Netherlands provincial15 messages

Could another category Netherlands be added provincially?
(I see this is there, but this is under time frame, I would find it more convenient if it is (also) a subcategory of the Netherlands.
now there are, for example, Duit van Gelderland listed under “Landen” as “Gelderland”.
very confusing and not straightforward.
this possibly. Also do for Germany, but then the federal states where you can place coins from, for example, Prussia, Bavaria, Danzig, Hamburg, Munster, etc. These all fall outside the existing categories. I would like to supply a list with the sub-areas of the Netherlands Provincial (Gelderland, Overijssel, Holland, Utrecht etc. and the federal states of Germany. so that the coins of Gelderland under the Netherlands Provincial & gt; Gelderland are
and coins from eg Prussia under Germany & gt; Prussia stands
let me know if anyone thinks this is a good idea and if it can be implemented.
and another suggestion for the Netherlands Provincial:
can also see the coins of the Cities separately.
so the Netherlands Provincial & gt; Gelderland & gt; Zutphen
to give an example
Greetings, Danny

Hoi Danny,
Bedankt voor je input.
Het leek me logischer om ‘provinciaal’ als tijdperk te benoemen, want het is immers een afgebakende periode in de tijd.
Als je tijdperk Nederland Provinciaal kiest zie je links de mogelijkheid om te kiezen voor de verschillende gebieden “landen”.
Munten van bijvoorbeeld Gelderland vallen al onder Nederland Provinciaal > Gelderland
Door deze methode is het niet nodig om naast “Land”, “Tijdperk” en “Serie” nog een extra veld “Categorie” aan te maken, wat bij het invoeren vaak tot verwarring zal lijden en dus tot fouten of incompleetheid.
Hopelijk is het zo duidelijk,
Eric

Hi Danny,
Thank you for your input.
It seemed more logical to me to refer to 'provincial' as an era, because it is, after all, a defined period in time.
If you choose the era Netherlands Provincial , you will see the option on the left to choose the different areas “countries”.
Coins from Gelderland, for example, already fall under the Netherlands Provincial > Gelderland
With this method it is not necessary to create an extra field “Category” in addition to “Country”, “Era” and “Series”, which will often lead to confusion when entering and thus to errors or incompleteness.
Hope it's so clear,
Eric

Oh yes, the German States you mention stand together in the era German States

Hi Eric,
Thanks for the clarification, the latter had not yet occurred to me
gr. Danny

Where do I place “occasional coins” such as the Delft duit

"Occasional Coins" are tokens. They can be entered at Coins, with face value “Penny”. If you look at the other "coins" with the face value "Medal", you will see more of similar things.

I don't understand this, because the tokens have a separate section and do not belong to the coins. In addition, tokens are sometimes also provided with a 'nominal value' - think of the ECU 's - which can cause confusion during input.

I would also like to raise this in particular in connection with articles such as the "Sample Euro sets" (Suriname, Guadeloupe and other more or less exotic places) M.i. a misleading name for private craftsmanship, fun to collect, but certainly does not belong in a coin category.

1. The medals category is more recent than the introduction of various medals in the coins category
2. Many tokens that have temporarily or locally had the purpose of serving as a means of payment do, as far as I am concerned, belong in this category
3. The distinction between a coin and a token is for many novice collectors (or people who happen to have something lying around and especially use Catawiki to put something like this in their shop).
4. The point is that even those awful “sample Euro sets” or “pattern sets” are almost exclusively sold by “coin dealers”; a regrettable, but nevertheless clearly visible, development in the coin trade in my opinion. All kinds of well-intentioned rules about banning coins in the strictest sense of the word, ensure that the usability of Catawiki is greatly diminished for most people.
At the moment I have the tendency to add medals minted by the Royal Dutch Mint to this section; partly based on the fact that even Schulman added the medal “700 years Amsterdam” from 1975 to his book.

I don't understand this, because the tokens have a separate section and do not belong to the coins.
From "Van Dale":
pen · ning de; m -en; -ninkje
1 small coin from earlier times
2 (in general) coin: it is on the ~ stingy
3 struck metal plate in memory
So tokens are definitely part of the coins.

And I know at least two traders who are now cheering their hands wringing.

That cleared up again too;)

Hm, I would just take a look at Wikipedia….

Hm, I'd just take a look at Wikipedia….
OK,
1. In history, however, there have been legal means of payment for which the collective name token existed.
2. In numismatics, roughly three schools of thought can be distinguished, namely:
* Historical (valuable) tokens * Pay and / or consumption tokens * Art medals
3. The silver medal was introduced as a currency in the middle of the eighth century, under the Pepin the Short
4. From the eighth to the thirteenth century, the token remained a common means of payment for us. This silver coin, whose weight was set at 1/240 part of a Carolingian pound (about 1.8 grams) under Charlemagne, later became lighter and less valuable. The same type of coin (silver denier) was minted throughout Charlemagne's empire. But at the end of the ninth century, the Carolingian Empire begins to lose power, and monetization in the Netherlands ceases
5. But then, until the 18th century, the word medal was also a common term for coins.

that's true