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I am interested on LD by a specific stamps on sale on LD for 15 € for many years as too expensive compared to market price  , it is a bit expensive particularly as LD don’t take any fees on sales. I can buy the same article for 12 € on a famous  (same post fees) to a serious pro dealer.

The fair price is 11 € do you think it is possible to kindly propose 11 € to the seller. Actually I could buy more on LD if I was able to negotiate better price are many are above what I consider fair market price.

Do you negociate or accept to lower price after negotiation ? 
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No, I don't do that myself.
If the price seems right to me, I'll buy it. If the price doesn't seem right to me, I won't buy it.

If I see something that is offered too cheap or too expensive, I usually send a message to the provider. It is often an incorrect registration that is then corrected.
A stamp that is normally traded at 20 euros, where a supplier places it at 0.20 euros, that is clearly a mistake.
Doing nothing is not an option for me.
You could buy a bat at 'obviously offered too cheaply'... guess what I think about that.
Unless it's a crumpled, torn and abused one. This must be clearly stated. It would be preferable not to do something like this (use the individual offers for this!). It results in a distorted picture of sales statistics.
And in the case of 'obviously too expensive', this puts a mortgage on the offer. The price that that product commands (and there is no chance that it will ever be sold at that price) could be better taken up by additional offerings in such a shop. This benefits both the buyer and the seller.

One of the big differences between LD and, for example, 2dehands.be or marktplaats.nl is that as a viewer you always know exactly what the requested price is. You don't pay more, but you don't pay less either. That is what is meant by 'solid'.
For large orders there are of course sellers who give a discount, but that is not structural. And you don't fish for that either.
The offer is ready and clear. You either like it or you don't like it.

On these other sites, the bidding is done by the buyers. You don't know where it will end. As a buyer you can bid and overbid, or start haggling. On LD you are spared from that misery.
On LD, the bidding takes place with the sellers. They can undercut: place it in the shop cheaper than what someone else asks for it.

Yet another group of digital offerings are the auction sites. I have my opinion about that too, don't worry. :)
The buyers at such events find winning fun, but if I see it this way, the cost of winning is often much too high. Crazy offers, and then a heavy rag is added on all sides.

LD is in the group with fixed prices. Without adding a rag.

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You can of course always point out to a seller that he will not lose it at that price. sometimes prices have to be evaluated (adjusted) over time.
But then the provider must adjust it in his shop before you can buy it at the adjusted price.
If another user just comes across it and thinks 'that's cheap', then you don't have it.
The seller determines the fixed price through his shop, after which any user can accept the offer.
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I don't sell stamps, but I (as a seller) have no objections in principle to price negotiations. There are books and comics in my Shop that no one has shown interest in for 10 years, and which I would like to get rid of.
Of course, the total amount must outweigh the work I have to do.
The invoice also includes a field for Discount, so the seller does not even have to adjust the sales price in advance.
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Hi Raoul62 I always consider fair price. Actually on some LD shops you can find  classic stamps that usually you should bought only with certificates some seller do very very low prices so low and with a beautiful stamp on the photo so it is forgeries but for 1 or 2 €  you have a very old forgerie that you can’t afford, they don’t write forgery but it is clear.

The problem about statistics seems that from the past and even now is that for the same classic stamp price range from 1 € to 75 € with a medium at 20 € and we have no history with photo to understand. The 1€ is a forgery , the 20 € can be a space filler and the higher price it was sold on LD 75 € it is a nice stamps with minors default.

In the above case , LD stats are completely wrong and this is life. 

I am for discounts, personally if someone order for 50 € in my shop I can offer a 10 % discount and will ask the same to a seller. It is a fair win win.
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Boekenmagazijn you underwood perfectly my idea, this is win win when you got articles you can’t sale for years or orders of a certain amount.

And no need to change the price as the seller can use the discount field, easy to do.

For the last order I received even I offered a stamp bonus to the buyer. We are collector and make happy fellow collectors is nice , even Pro do that and offer bonus or discount for a certain amount so as just collector this is polite way to reward fidelity or new order.

Personally what I sell on LD the amount is use to buy on LD shops. If I don’t sale on LD I don’t buy as my budget is too tight.
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